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Sir haydn · Post by **Sir haydn** » Tue Oct 11, 2011 2:23 pm

Beddgelert?

Pretoria · Post by **Pretoria** » Tue Oct 11, 2011 2:29 pm

SAR NG6

williamfj · Post by **williamfj** » Tue Oct 11, 2011 2:40 pm

If another American loco is been talked about I think an Alco 2-6-2 would be a good bet, either in as built condition or as Mountaineer is now.

dougrail · Post by **dougrail** » Tue Oct 11, 2011 2:43 pm

An 0-4-2 'basic' would be nice. What about an 042 based on the Kerr Stuart Tattoo?

taliesin001 · Post by **taliesin001** » Tue Oct 11, 2011 2:58 pm

Sir haydn:59757 wrote:Beddgelert?

I hope so! would be a very nice loco, however another that is quite large

Sir haydn · Post by **Sir haydn** » Tue Oct 11, 2011 3:03 pm

I think they will do another big loco as Tom Rolt didn'tseem to sell aswell as the larger locos, where as the L&M is selling well and has from the word go.

Sir haydn · Post by **Sir haydn** » Tue Oct 11, 2011 3:25 pm

Doll and Elf maybe larger locos on the LBR but when correct to 16mm scale the narrow boilers and tiny cylinders pose the problem that RH will not be able to use their standard bore cylinder

hussra · Post by **hussra** » Tue Oct 11, 2011 3:34 pm

What reasonably-popular NG loco is there left to do, of a decent size? Accucraft are doing the L&B and Isle of Man. A Kerr, Stuart "Tattoo" would end up rather similar-looking to the Accucraft Leader.

There is a crying need for one of the volume manufacturers to do a Quarry Hunslet, but that doesn't exactly fit in with the average contents of the Roundhouse bits box.

Something Irish maybe, or would it end up too big? Plenty of largeish (and some very large) outside-framed locos to choose from - might look a bit comical on 32mm, but one of the Burtonport 4-6-0T locos or similar?

90733 · Post by **90733** » Tue Oct 11, 2011 3:56 pm

Be interesting to see what they do, really I think Beddgelert would have a very limited range, as the raduis it could do would be large!

Sir haydn · Post by **Sir haydn** » Tue Oct 11, 2011 4:28 pm

90733:59770 wrote:Be interesting to see what they do, really I think Beddgelert would have a very limited range, as the raduis it could do would be large!

Its alot shorter than the L&M

How about the SBR mallet?

MuzTrem · Post by **MuzTrem** » Tue Oct 11, 2011 4:56 pm

If they want to do anything really original then they'll probably have to look overseas, or embrace more technical innovation, such as Double Fairlies or Garratts. But is there really the demand for innovation? The Darjeeling B, the VoR, the Penrhyn Hunslets, the L&M - they'd all been done before. Perhaps the fickle British enthusiast is actually quite happy with a fairly narrow range of models based on his favourite prototypes?

Keith, I have to disagree with you on Beddgelert! Personally I think she was a very pretty engine. Don't know how well a model would sell though, she is certainly one of the more obscure British NG prototypes.

90733 · Post by **90733** » Tue Oct 11, 2011 5:03 pm

Sir haydn:59773 wrote:
90733:59770 wrote:Be interesting to see what they do, really I think Beddgelert would have a very limited range, as the raduis it could do would be large!
Its alot shorter than the L&M

How about the SBR mallet?

The mallet would be good, sorry, didn't know about the L&M been bigger!

MTA · Post by **MTA** » Tue Oct 11, 2011 5:29 pm

Sir haydn:59773 wrote:
90733:59770 wrote:Be interesting to see what they do, really I think Beddgelert would have a very limited range, as the raduis it could do would be large!
Its alot shorter than the L&M

How about the SBR mallet?

I think the Harrogate gas works Peckett would be a good contender, considering how big it is for 2' gauge

Palmerston · Post by **Palmerston** » Tue Oct 11, 2011 5:46 pm

Another diesel .....?!

Endless, Nameless · Post by **Endless, Nameless** » Tue Oct 11, 2011 5:49 pm

^ Been hoping Accucraft would do that one- suits their rather chunky style, and it's one of my favourites.

As for what I'd like RH to do, hmm.

I like the Irish suggestion- Tralee & Dingle 2-6-0 please, lovely beasties (and pretty well known). And there was more than one of them!

Might look a bit silly on 32mm though.

I think the reason Tom Rolt didn't sell is purely because it wasn't very pretty. Personally I'd quite like one, suitably industrialised.

dougrail · Post by **dougrail** » Tue Oct 11, 2011 5:49 pm

A Snowdon Mountain 042?

IrishPeter · Post by **IrishPeter** » Tue Oct 11, 2011 6:00 pm

Some sort of saddle tank. The Ballymena, Cushendall and Red Bay 0-4-2STs were narrow - about 6'3" which in 16mm is 100mm, so they would look OK on SM32. The downer is that they were inside framed.

Another thought...

The Sharp Stewart 2-4-0Ts built for the Wee Donegal. They had outside frames and were not all that wide (7') IIRC, and they were clear stablemates of the MNR and Southwold inside framed varieties,

One of the bigger Industrial Hunslet 0-4-0ST's not the Penrhyn design, but that used on many a reservoir and road project in the days before tracked vehicles.

Peter in AZ

MDLR · Post by **MDLR** » Tue Oct 11, 2011 6:07 pm

Am I right in thinking there were two sizes if Quarry Hunslets? (sorry - not much up on the Welsh stuff) If so, would a larger one (like Cackler) be easier for Roundhouse to do than the small ones?

IrishPeter · Post by **IrishPeter** » Tue Oct 11, 2011 6:16 pm

The Penrhyn version of the Hunslet ST design came in small and large sizes; the latter being the mainline version (Blanche, etc.). Personally I like the look of the mainline Hunslets better than the Quarry engines mainly because they look hefty and purposeful.

Small Quarry Hunslets like 'Cackler' look bigger than say 'Maid Marian' because the former still has her original low chimney. In preservation a lot of the Quarry Hunslets have acquired cabs and taller chimneys so that they do not smoke out passengers and crew.

Hunslet also did a highly standardized range of 0-4-0 and 0-6-0 Saddle Tanks which were used by contractors and industrial concerns. They were a little bigger than the Penrhyns being basically a 3' gauge design. Manning Wardle produced a similar 'bog standard' saddle tank.

I know R/H has a generic saddle tank in Bertie, but it is a basic (no biggie), and the small high pitched boiler makes it look a bit delicate to my eyes. Katie(?) looks better, but is out of my price range for the time being.

Peter in AZ

taliesin001 · Post by **taliesin001** » Tue Oct 11, 2011 6:34 pm

locomotion already do cackler so I wouldn't have thought that it would be that one, although I think they would make a nice job of it.

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