Its slow running is as delightful as I hoped (gears and flywheels FTW) but I plan to give it a cab with spectacles and side doors, to anglicise (or cymrify) it a little bit. This will be my first modelling effort in brass, but I will be calling on the help and advice of fellow Cardiff MES garden railers who have considerable skill in this.
First step is trying out some ideas, in (at Tony Bird's suggestion, 300gsm) card.
Draft 1 is largely inspired by Konrad konversions I have seen elsewhere.
The colour has attracted much comment(!) but I cannot guarantee it will be chosen for the final model
I removed the displacement lubricator for convenience but I will probably put it back in its original position, i.e. in front of the cab front sheet on the starboard side. The gas tank will be re-orientated to sit inside the coal bunker.
My own observation was the cab is too high - when I set the height I didn't account for the low footplate. The driver (a scale 5'6") cannot see through the spectacles. This means the chimney is too tall too.
Tony suggested moving the cab sides in so the cab footplate protrudes a few scale inches. Then midwalesstokie suggested an all-over cab would look good...
Draft 2 takes this into account, photos in the next post.
PS would oval spectacles a la O&K achieve the same end. All down to personal preference I guess.
I guess oval spectacles would allow your lass there to see better, but at the expense of the fine proportions you've given that cab. I think you've got it perfect the way it is. Except the colour, perhaps.
Possibly the roof itself could extend a bit further back, to shelter the driver, but certainly not the cab sides themselves.
I matched the cab height to the chimney, but besides the driver not being able to see through them, the spectacles look to high to me even from the front - that's just in aesthetic terms. So if I lower the cab roof, the chimney will look to tall, but then I could lower the chimney... If the issue was just the driver height, a raised timber floor is a great idea, I hadn't thought of that.LNR:121576 wrote:I think the relationship between chimney and cab height is spot on, but a lot depends on the scale in the back of your mind. Could there be a timber floor in the cab not visible from outside, that would raise drivers eye view??
She's 5'6" so not especially short. I'm over 6' so I'd probably be ok -but it would seem presumptuous to expect a loco to only accommodate those of my build!(I notice the driver appears to be female and shortish)
That would certainly solve the issue, but unfortunately I'm quite irrationally wedded to round spectacles!PS would oval spectacles a la O&K achieve the same end. All down to personal preference I guess.
Thanks!Keith S:121578 wrote:I think it looks lovely, you've done a nice job with the cab style- the proportions are quite attractive.
Yes, I think if I go for a half cab, a deeper roof would be an improvement.Possibly the roof itself could extend a bit further back, to shelter the driver, but certainly not the cab sides themselves.
I quite like the overall cab, although it's not as practical. And to my eye, the lower roof (and lower spectacles) look much better. I also like having the footplate protrude.
I'm having difficulty deciding between the full cab and the half cab, and to properly compare I need to see what the half cab looks like with the other improvements - lower roof and narrower cab - and also a deeper roof. So, out with the card and scalpel again...
PS even without pillars that roof could go back some as Ian says.
http://www.gardenrailwayclub.com/7-8ths ... er-vincent
I know it is in 7/8ths but it might give you ideas on a final open cab design.
Not really. As I recall I just unscrewed it and put it in the other side with a small amount of silver solder to hold it in place.Gralyn:121613 wrote:That looks good. Noticed you had to reverse the direction lever on the cylinder. Was it difficult to do?.
My vote is for the original version in the first picture.
Here's my draft 3. Half cab, deeper roof, same height as the full cab. I've also stuck a very crude shortened chimney on - it was never my intention that it should remain at the original height if the cab is lowered. I've also shifted the boiler more towards the centre.
I definitely like the deeper roof for the half cab. The lower cab still pleases my eye better than the original, although it could perhaps be just a few mm higher using the planked floor trick to raise the driver.
Thanks ... the brief was to do a Penrhyn Quarry "what if", hence the Hunslet-inspired shape and the livery.SimonWood:121708 wrote:... I hadn't seen the one you did, TonyW, and I like that a lot.
Your latest incantation is looking good too!
Putting a driver figure in the Vincent's cab I also found that interfered with the regulator operation.
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