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Thatched cottage - RE-ROOFED

Post by philipy » Thu May 08, 2014 7:21 pm

A couple of weeks ago I started work on a thatched cottage because the weather was a bit grotty for the garden.
Just got the shell put together and the weather improved, so out into the garden I went. Got the ballasting done on about half the circuit and the weather turns grotty again, so back indoors I come....!

Have spent a large chunk of today putting the thatch on and I'm fairly pleased with it so far, so I thought I'd post a couple of pictures of work in progress.




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For those who like to know about such things, the body is the dreaded foam board, nothing special there, and my plan is to finish it as rendered, no fancy stone or brick this time.

The roof is being thatched with plumbers hemp, cut in bundles about 15mm wide and 40mm long and fixed with outdoor PVA.

Its a bit shaggy as yet, and I'm going to experiment with a razor to try to achieve a nice graduated effect. Watch this space...
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Post by Peter Butler » Thu May 08, 2014 7:29 pm

I am seriously impressed with your use of foam board and determined to try it myself.... Any tips on construction and especially marking out stone or bricks would be helpful.
Also..... what ballast and adhesive (if any) are you using?

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Post by kandnwlr » Thu May 08, 2014 7:36 pm

Now here´s something I can identify with. Over here (I think) on t´continent, it´s called Styropor for the soft stuff, and Styrodur for the harder stuff, which need cutting with a very sharp craft knife. And it´s quite popular for building buildings. But the thatching is something that I´ve avoided up till now. Awaiting results with bated breath .... :shock:

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Post by philipy » Thu May 08, 2014 8:34 pm

Thanks Peter.
I used a mixture of 10mm and 5mm board from that well known auction site! Watch it though, some so-called foam board has a foam core with thin card faces and it isn't always obvious.

I use a fine tip felt tip to mark out and cut with a scalpel ( not Stanley knife).
For adhesive I like Evostick Serious Stuff, the one in the black tube not the orange or silver one, although they do work ok.

For brick marking I set a pair of dividers at the appropriate spacing and walk it up the wall at both ends to just prick mark. Then using a Pilot fine tip rollerball pen and ruler, just gently join the dots. That sorts the horizontal coursing. For the vertical joints I use a small pir of dividers agin. Set to the brick length and starting with a 'header' at one end of the course, scribe the first vertical. Then move along, put the LH point in the first mark and use that as a guide to use the RH point to scribe the next vertical. Transfer along and repeat to the end of the row.
Move to the top of the wall, making VERY sure you are on a row that starts with a header, and repeat the process. You can then use the pen and ruler to scribe the verticals between the two marked rows, but remember to scribe only alternate courses!
Then, use the dividers again to mark the adjacent rows at top and bottom of the wall, but half a brick out of line, and repeat the whole process.

For stonework, I use a similar technique but with minimal use of the ruler, mostly freehand, by eye. Start with the quoins at the corners and windows/doors, do them by eye and the exact size doesnt matter as long as they are approx the same. Then draw deliberately uneven horizontals, if they wander off and hit the one above or below, don't worry. Next you have fun doing the more or less vertical, verticals, at sizes that take your fancy.

As for ballast, I'm using 2mm Emerald Green granite from Derbyshire Aggregates. Don't worry it isn't really Emerald in colour , it's that slightly greenish shade that most model railway ballst seems to be. Its the nearest to scale that I've seen. I was fotunate in being on a business trip in the area a few months back, so I called in and got two 25kg bags for £9-95!! They do deliver but that makes it pretty expensive unless you are in the market for a pallet load. I've done about half my line using about 2/3 of a bag so far. For sticking I'm doing a Rowlands mix variation, 2 parts ballast, 1 part sieved compost, 1part cement powder. When its all set, Tesco's best cheap and nasty yoghurt mixed with minced moss (!!) Diluted and splashed on liberally, promotes the 'weed growth'.
I'll post a couple of pictures tomorrow, it's absolutely chucking it down and getting dark now.

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Post by laalratty » Thu May 08, 2014 8:41 pm

The building looks great, foam board seems to really be in vogue at the moment for model buildings, not surprising I suppose given the results possible. Also, its always good to have indoor and outdoor projects you can work on so you are well set whatever the weather.
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Post by kandnwlr » Thu May 08, 2014 9:28 pm

I´ve used HB pencil to "join the dots" on Styrodur, which seems to work to make the indentations on the material.

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Post by kandnwlr » Thu May 08, 2014 9:32 pm

BTW. Like the garden video a lot. Prototypical speeds, as well. Do you know which camera you used?

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Re: Thatched cottage

Post by Enginehouse » Thu May 08, 2014 11:02 pm

philipy:100391 wrote:
Have spent a large chunk of today putting the thatch on and I'm fairly pleased with it so far, so I thought I'd post a couple of pictures of work in progress..
Looks just like the cottage that I was brought up in - more years ago than I care to remember. It even had a rose covered timbered arch about eight foot from the front door across the garden gate. It did have a back door though, to allow easy access to the toilet out in the back yard. Chimney had a large iron plate on the breast outside, a hinged outside door to allow sweeping the chimney from the outside. We used a leafy holly bush branch hauled up and down on a length of rope.

I get my plastic faced foam board and clear acrylic sheet from Trent Plastics Fabrications Ltd, at Gainsborough in lincs. They are cheap, cut it to the required size and deliver in the UK. Amazing how much a decent sized model building uses.
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Post by Peter Butler » Thu May 08, 2014 11:44 pm

Thank you Philip for your detailed description which gives me a head start once I have the correct material.... this is now a concen because I thought of foamboard as a paper coated material but now I learn that you might be using a plastic coated sheet which makes much more sense to me if this is to withstand outside conditions.
My previous experience with foamboard is due to working in the picture framing trade (many years ago!) where the paper coated variety was used. I had no idea until now that a plastic coated board was available and I thank Enginehouse for that info!
Time to do some homework!!!

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Post by philipy » Fri May 09, 2014 6:13 am

kandnwlr:100404 wrote:BTW. Like the garden video a lot. Prototypical speeds, as well. Do you know which camera you used?
Thanks. The camera was a cheap little Vivitar DVD1080HD that somebody gave my wife. She didn't want it and I discovered that it exactly fitted a low sided wagon that I had got cheap from somewhere to do something with but never had.

I can't stand go-faster trains! Why go to the trouble and expense of a beautifully detailed model and then wreck the illusion by racing rounds at speeds that NASA would be proud of!
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Post by philipy » Fri May 09, 2014 6:27 am

Peter Butler:100413 wrote:  this is now a concen because I thought of foamboard as a paper coated material but now I learn that you might be using a plastic coated sheet
Peter,
The stuff I use, isn't coated with anything, it is just the foam itself, which provides a nice key for glue and paint.

This is the link for where I got mine, although this seller seems to have vanished recently, which is a shame because I was going to order some more!

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Orange-POLYFO ... 1300895690?

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Post by philipy » Fri May 09, 2014 6:35 am

Enginehouse:100412 wrote:It even had a rose covered timbered arch about eight foot from the front door across the garden gate. It did have a back door though, to allow easy access to the toilet out in the back yard. Chimney had a large iron plate on the breast outside, a hinged outside door to allow sweeping the chimney from the outside. We used a leafy holly bush branch hauled up and down on a length of rope.
Roy,

For a minute there I thought you were hauling the poor holly bush up and down on a rope in the privy!!! :lol: :lol:

Yes, an arch over the front gate has been in my mind as part of this eventually, anyone got any suggestions for 16mm roses?
Thanks for the chimney access plate idea, I'd forgotten about those and it isn't on the plans I'm loosely following.
I've also been wondering about a back door, but again that wasn't on the plan, but probably because it is actually a dolls house plan which is only seen from the front and with a highly detailed interior. I think I might add one before its too late ( and possibly a privy). Thanks.

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Post by bazzer42 » Fri May 09, 2014 7:38 am

I love that cottage.

I think we are talking two types of board here. The stuff I have bought from Trent plastics is firm and used for sign writing. It certainly wouldn't cut with a hot wire and a scalpel would be interesting :shock:

The ebay link shows a softer type that looks like it would be more amenable to shaping and cutting curves and probably cleaner to cut. By cleaner I mean 90 degree cuts as I inevitably end up with slight angle with a bit of the hard stuff. I do wonder whether the two would mix glue wise as it could be a useful combo.

thanks for the post, can't wait to see the finished article.

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Post by Enginehouse » Fri May 09, 2014 7:58 am

I think acefoam.co.uk based in Telford are another provider of closed cell polyfoam sheets. Never tried this as a base. Will have to order some and have a play.
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Re: Thatched cottage

Post by Peter Butler » Fri May 09, 2014 2:39 pm

philipy:100416 wrote:
Yes, an arch over the front gate has been in my mind as part of this eventually, anyone got any suggestions for 16mm roses?
Quite realistic flowers (including roses) are available from many Craft Shops and 'The Works' as decorative additions to gift cards etc... I have used them myself and I think they work well.

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