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PCLR · Post by **PCLR** » Thu Oct 15, 2009 6:11 pm

i was looking at a diffrent forum when i came a cross this

a live steam stainz i thing they are being produced by regner
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Hancockshire · Post by **Hancockshire** » Thu Oct 15, 2009 6:18 pm

I want one (well I want any steam engine at the moment) but it's only available in 45mm isn't it & if I've learnt anything, it will be horribly expensive. Even in 009, German outline locomotives cost around £200 now so that will be at least £10,000 (Ok, maybe a tad less than that)

PCLR · Post by **PCLR** » Thu Oct 15, 2009 6:24 pm

what about a kit ruby and make it more british looking at 300 pound you can't realy beat one and whats wrong will 45mm i run on it i find and i think is better than 32mm as the locos and rolling stock is more stable

Hancockshire · Post by **Hancockshire** » Thu Oct 15, 2009 6:33 pm

I've had no problem with stability with my Kerr Stuart

. I have no problem with it, but it's just that it's a bit confusing as you have G-scale that has both narrow gauge & standard gauge when the standard gauge fits into Gauge 1 & some people merge between the two

SillyBilly · Post by **SillyBilly** » Thu Oct 15, 2009 7:11 pm

PCLR wrote:whats wrong will 45mm

The rails are too far apart when you're running models of 2ft gauge locos.

MoelygestLR · Post by **MoelygestLR** » Thu Oct 15, 2009 7:30 pm

SillyBilly wrote:
PCLR wrote:whats wrong will 45mm
The rails are too far apart when you're running models of 2ft gauge locos.

But you can get away with that when it's well ballasted and the tracks well weathered and theres some sort of distraction away from the track such as a nice steam train

Hancockshire · Post by **Hancockshire** » Thu Oct 15, 2009 8:30 pm

SillyBilly wrote:
PCLR wrote:whats wrong will 45mm
The rails are too far apart when you're running models of 2ft gauge locos.

Too true

Endless, Nameless · Post by **Endless, Nameless** » Thu Oct 15, 2009 8:31 pm

SillyBilly wrote:
PCLR wrote:whats wrong will 45mm
The rails are too far apart when you're running models of 2ft gauge locos.

Just as well the prototype is metre gauge then really isn't it

It's not actually in production anymore, it wasn't *that* expensive for what it is, i.e. an accurate scale model to a very high spec. Can't remember the exact figure but although far from cheap it wasn't as much as I'd have expected.

Hancockshire · Post by **Hancockshire** » Thu Oct 15, 2009 8:44 pm

Endless, Nameless wrote:Just as well the prototype is metre gauge then really isn't it

Hang on...
there is 3ft in a metre so why can't they just call it 3ft gauge? Damn Germans. NOT NORMAL (Al Murray Moment or AMM)

mhlr · Post by **mhlr** » Thu Oct 15, 2009 8:59 pm

PCLR wrote:what about a kit ruby and make it more british looking at 300 pound you can't realy beat one and whats wrong will 45mm i run on it i find and i think is better than 32mm as the locos and rolling stock is more stable

The Ruby does make good conversions, but apparently they can be tempermental locos. I've like the Gauge 1 British standard gauge conversions though!

And if the train is unstable, your obviously driving too fast

Dr. Bond of the DVLR · Post by **Dr. Bond of the DVLR** » Thu Oct 15, 2009 9:09 pm

Pete you drive like a maniac! I've seen the speeds you do, and the speeds that your trains go at is far faster than my little 45mm line too!

Each gauge is good at modeling the prototype it was designed to do. And if you cross em over who cares- that was the first model before production started hence that locomotive was to a different gauge and not in the records of the company. Thats my theory anyway! You only live once!

Endless, Nameless · Post by **Endless, Nameless** » Thu Oct 15, 2009 9:38 pm

Hancockshire wrote:
Endless, Nameless wrote:Just as well the prototype is metre gauge then really isn't it
Hang on...
there is 3ft in a metre so why can't they just call it 3ft gauge? Damn Germans. NOT NORMAL (Al Murray Moment or AMM)

Three foot isn't a metre. It's a yard, which is roughly 900mm IIRC.

Bet you get taught in metric at school don't you...
I admit I prefer imperial though- got into trouble for doing my GCSE DT project in inches...

DLRdan · Post by **DLRdan** » Thu Oct 15, 2009 11:14 pm

interesting, a gauge argument that Andy hasn't posted in yet, is he ill ?

Palmerston · Post by **Palmerston** » Fri Oct 16, 2009 5:56 pm

PCLR wrote:i was looking at a diffrent forum when i came a cross this

a live steam stainz i thing they are being produced by regner
wow wow!!!!!!!!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:

Limited run in 2004 , none left ...

MTA · Post by **MTA** » Fri Oct 16, 2009 7:06 pm

Endless, Nameless wrote:
Hancockshire wrote:
Endless, Nameless wrote:Just as well the prototype is metre gauge then really isn't it
Hang on...
there is 3ft in a metre so why can't they just call it 3ft gauge? Damn Germans. NOT NORMAL (Al Murray Moment or AMM)
Three foot isn't a metre. It's a yard, which is roughly 900mm IIRC.

1 yard = 914mm

1 metre = 1.0936 yards

If one wants to be pedantic

andysleigh · Post by **andysleigh** » Fri Oct 16, 2009 7:08 pm

PCLR wrote: whats wrong will 45mm

everything!

well, i am highly against modelling our kind of narrow gauge stuff on 45mm, 32mm is the one and true.

But Gauge 1 british standard gauge stuff, i love.

glas lgb is different gauge, i dont want to mix two totally ifferent things. good narrow gauge models, and crappy plastic stuff.

andysleigh · Post by **andysleigh** » Fri Oct 16, 2009 7:10 pm

DLRdan wrote:interesting, a gauge argument that Andy hasn't posted in yet, is he ill ?

dont worry, i am here now

Endless, Nameless · Post by **Endless, Nameless** » Fri Oct 16, 2009 8:36 pm

MTA wrote:
Endless, Nameless wrote:
Hancockshire wrote:
Endless, Nameless wrote:Just as well the prototype is metre gauge then really isn't it
Hang on...
there is 3ft in a metre so why can't they just call it 3ft gauge? Damn Germans. NOT NORMAL (Al Murray Moment or AMM)
Three foot isn't a metre. It's a yard, which is roughly 900mm IIRC.

1 yard = 914mm

1 metre = 1.0936 yards

If one wants to be pedantic

I couldn't be bothered to look it up

I made my point anyway, you just made it better.

And Andy, it's a model of a METRE GAUGE ENGINE hence it's on 45mm.

I see your point regarding fings like quarry Hunslets, but the W&L locos look good on 45mm (although I admit not on LGB track), being 2' 6" they scale out to being half way between the two, but in my opinion (and that of a certain Mr Gorton, we were discussing the matter today) they look better on the wider gauge; so long as a scale rail profile is used. Same is also true of some of the other bigger Accucraft locos such as Lawley- which has a definite Irish 3" gauge feel to it.

Some people can be very blinkered in such matters. I'm quite happy on 45mm or 32mm so long as it looks right- some things look wrong on 32mm, others look wrong on 45- moodswings and roundabouts.

Dr. Bond of the DVLR · Post by **Dr. Bond of the DVLR** » Fri Oct 16, 2009 10:52 pm

'ere 'ere! I could have a W and L loco or stock and no one would complain then?

Endless, Nameless · Post by **Endless, Nameless** » Sat Oct 17, 2009 12:30 am

I wouldn't go that far... I wouldn't complain mind! What you actually need is 40mm gauge though

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