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Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2016 4:05 pm
by Keith S
I hope it's a traction engine. A Fowler B-2. That would be excellent.

Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2016 4:19 pm
by DLRdan
What does a B-2 look like Keith? Can't seem to find a Fowler, when I search it comes up with Tasker tractors.

Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2016 7:25 pm
by Keith S
...at least I THINK t's a "B2". I might be wrong. Anyway it has two cylinders and superheaters- it's a brute. With a pair of Roundhouse cylinders it'd probably pull you around the garden. Just the ticket for carting your 16mm goods from the 16mm town to the station!


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Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2016 9:26 pm
by DLRdan
Its a one off B6 according to this site. Its interesting to see a road loco with a spoked flywheel and on strakes.

http://www.steamscenes.co.uk/blog/fowle ... ndu-zambia

Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2016 10:15 pm
by Keith S
That's the one. "B6". I tried to build a model of it once but didn't get far. I still have the bits in a box somewhere.

Sorry for wasting your time with the incorrect nomenclature. I was being lazy and not checking my facts before posting.

Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2016 10:41 pm
by DLRdan
Don't worry about it Keith, its given me something to research for a bit. I like finding out about the experimental engines, wonder how succesful it was.

Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2016 1:20 am
by Keith S
I gather it was pretty successful in terms of being able to pull things, which I guess is about as successful as you could hope in a locomotive, but it seems to have changed hands a lot. It was meant to pull the parts for a mill into position and then function as a stationary power source for the same mill. The mill wasn't very successful and the engine was sold on to another place, and then another, and ended up serving as a source of steam for an essential-oil factory before it was stuck in a field. It's still there, but since it's been deemed a "cultural" artifact it can't be brought back to England and restored.

Anyway I know Roundhouse won't make a traction engine but every year I chime into this conversation with my opinion that they should. It would be nice if they made a Stevenson's valve-gear in the home builder parts. Then people could make different locomotives (road AND rail!), and also I have a boat project on the back-burner that could use a pair of RH cylinders and a Stevenson's valve-gear, too!

Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2016 9:31 am
by tom_tom_go
7/8ths offering still would be good...

Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2016 10:01 am
by Dannypenguin
Its 10am on the morning of Peterborough, so what else would I be posting?

As a Roundhouse dealer, please allow me to introduce...

Bundaberg Fowler

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Roundhouse 'Bundaberg Fowler' live steam model. It is a model of works number 6, built in 1952 by the Bundaberg foundry for the Millaquin Mill in Queensland, Australia. In its later years it became known as ‘Speedy’, operating on the Ballyhooley Steam Railway, transporting passengers around the Port Douglas area.

Technical specifications for the 'Bundaberg Fowler':
- 0-6-2 outside framed chassis with two double acting slide valve cylinders
- Simplified Walschaerts valve gear.
- Internal gas firing using our ‘FG’ type burner.
- Controls fitted as standard are :- Steam regulator, safety valve, pressure gauge, displacement lubricator, gas regulator and reversing gear.
- Water top-up system and water gauge.
- Exhaust enhancer fitted as standard.
- Overall dimensions (loading gauge) length 322mm, width 123mm, height 165mm.
- Weight 4.1 kg
- Full radio control is available for both regulator and reversing valve gear.
- A gauge conversion kit is available separately to allow changing between 32mm and 45mm gauge. Please state gauge when ordering.
- Cab glazing.
- Available in any standard Roundhouse colour.
- Also available with insulated wheels.

Darjeeling NDM-6

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This model is of the DHR NDM-6 locomotive built by Suri and Nayar (SAN) Engineering & Locomotive Company, Bangalore. This locomotive is currently operated by the Darjeeling Himalayan Railway. The loco is a 2-axle, air-braked unit, weighs in at around 17.5 tonnes and is powered by a Kirloskar-Cummins engine with 335 hp continuous output. The NDM-6 is the fourth in the Roundhouse series of battery powered diesel models.

Technical specifications for the Darjeeling NDM-6

- Weight 3.5kg.
- Long running time.
- 0-4-0 outside framed steel chassis.
- Dimensions: Length 309mm (over Coupling), Width 110mm, Height 145mm.
- Fitted with a two high-powered motor and precision made steel helical gear set.
- Front and rear working directional headlamps.
- Full radio control - Stop, Start and Speed in both directions using our powerful and highly reliable Roundhouse 'LocoGlyde' Electronic Speed Controller (ESC).
- Powered by 10 AA NiMh rechargeable batteries for excellent running time complete with fast charger for in-situ charging.
- Gauge adjustable between 32mm and 45mm gauge.
- Insulated wheels fitted as standard.
- Fully glazed windows and removable roof to access interior.
- Available with optional sound system featuring engine sound and horn (extra cost)
- Available in any standard ROUNDHOUSE colour.

Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2016 10:25 am
by tom_tom_go
What soundcard have they fitted in the Darjeeling?

Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2016 10:36 am
by Dannypenguin
Can't help there I'm afraid...I'm guessing it will be the same hardware as the Harlech with bespoke sounds for the NDM-6, but obviously I can't be sure of that :)

Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2016 2:52 pm
by invicta280
Two very handsome locos, and good choices i think. Are they dropping anything from the existing range?

Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2016 3:01 pm
by Dannypenguin
invicta280:117277 wrote:Two very handsome locos, and good choices i think. Are they dropping anything from the existing range?
Mountaineer, it will be orderable until 31st December 2016. :? I did like Mountaineer, shame it is too big for my Railway!

Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2016 7:00 pm
by steamyjim
A nice pair! They will sell well I'm sure...

Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2016 1:09 pm
by SpudUk
That was an anti-climax

Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2016 7:07 pm
by Andrew
I was quite relieved - nice if you like that sort of thing but nothing that's likely bto cause me to break open the piggy bank.

And then I heard that Locoworks are to produce a r-t-r Ffestiniog "England", and my little piggy started looking worried again... As far as it's possible to "need" a toy train my railway and it's FfR train need an England, but the aforementioned piggy bank set aside for big hobby purchases currently contains less than £30! So I'd better start selling and saving...

Don't know whether the Locoworks England prototype put in an appearance at the show? I'd love to see what it looks like - and hear about likely performance too...

Cheers,

Andrew.

Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2016 7:32 pm
by Soar Valley Light
SpudUk:117294 wrote:That was an anti-climax
It's not just me thinking that then!

My piggy back shares the relief felt by Andrews!

Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2016 9:19 pm
by Joe
Yep Dittto-really no interest at all considering its basically a copy of the Fowler without a tender (and more expensive)
If only Roundhouse had done an England, almost £2000 for one from locoworks seems ridiculous for a manual slip eccentric loco that can in theory be built from a millie chassis and boiler (costing around £500+body and details).
Anyway theres always next year I guess......

Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2016 8:04 am
by robc_wa
Interesting that they are both non UK locos. As a colonial I am quite Ok with that but the Fowler Tender loco is on my purchase list before either of these, especially since it is available as a kit.

I also wonder if the British engineering of the NDM-6 makes it worth about twice as much as the pline one from its native India :)

Rob

Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2016 11:04 am
by funandtrains
They are both locos that really interest me other than the high prices. They still have not dropped Lady Anne then, with so many scale side tank locos in the range now I wonder why people would still want one. A pity that they have not brought Jack and the Forney back.