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Re: Semi-scale BR: The Modernisation Plan

Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2022 6:29 pm
by philipy
Those are excellent, Bertie. They look entirely plausible to my non-expert eye.

Re: Semi-scale BR: The Modernisation Plan

Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2022 8:18 pm
by Andrew
Loving the proto-Thumper, instantly recognisable!

I have happy early memories of thumping across Kent to Appledore, before heading through country lanes on the back of my Dad's tandem to join the family camping holiday. Quite fancy a trip to the Spa Valley Railway some time, it strikes me that visit there on a day when steam and DEMU traction are combined would make a splendid day out...

Re: Semi-scale BR: The Modernisation Plan

Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2022 8:54 pm
by ge_rik
Wow! They look delectable ....... :notworthy:

Rik

Re: Semi-scale BR: The Modernisation Plan

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2022 10:20 am
by BertieB
Thank you all. I’ll need to make that trip to Tunbridge Wells (the SVR) armed with my most sophisticated sound-recording equipment (a mobile phone).

Re: Semi-scale BR: The Modernisation Plan

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2022 5:15 pm
by invicta280
This is one of my favourite threads and I always look forward to what Southernesque delights may emerge from your immensely capable workshop.

Re: Semi-scale BR: The Modernisation Plan

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:16 pm
by BertieB
Invicta280 — That’s really very generous of you. Thank you.

Re: Semi-scale BR: The Modernisation Plan

Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2022 2:38 pm
by Sylvian Tennant
Every time I come on here you're doing something amazing

Re: Semi-scale BR: The Modernisation Plan

Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2022 4:18 pm
by Lonsdaler
Those look entirely plausible Bertie, and I bet all but the gricers would be convinced as to there authenticity. Lovely modelling work.

Re: Semi-scale BR: The Modernisation Plan

Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2022 1:16 pm
by BertieB
Thanks for the kind comments. Now to fit the electrics; finish and paint it; sort out the garden — and run it. Hope it doesn’t take too long this time.

Re: Semi-scale BR: The Modernisation Plan

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2022 2:30 pm
by BertieB
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Desperately trying to avoid more mistakes. Note the first, tentative steps into weathering

It is all taking rather longer than I’d imagined.

And guess what — another spray can and the matching small bottle of enamel I bought for touching up don’t appear to be quite the same colour! I’ve used paint, DIY decal materials, printer, software and spec as before (this thread, page 2) but this time the printed DIY decal background colour proved to be a poor match and I had to fiddle with colour tests all over again… and then accept some dodgy touching up, which I’ve tried to disguise (not entirely successfully) with five hundred coats of varnish.

It’s driven me insane.

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A few days later — now that the veins on my forehead have stopped throbbing, I've convinced myself that it’s giving off quite a pleasing, old Hornby-esque kind of vibe. Especially outside, from a few yards away. It’s the crisp GRS compartment module windows and flat paintwork, I suppose. It’s not too detailed and quite plasticky (which I actually quite like). I couldn’t dare go with anything remotely glossy, of course, as it would emphasise all the little lumpy horrors and sloppy bits.

It’s a lot easier just painting stuff black.

Still loads to do.

Re: Semi-scale BR: The Modernisation Plan

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2022 3:46 pm
by ge_rik
Well, they look pretty darn good to me! Not just good, but excellent!

Rik

Re: Semi-scale BR: The Modernisation Plan

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2022 3:58 pm
by Andrew
Doesn't that look just right out in the garden?! Splendid stuff!

Re: Semi-scale BR: The Modernisation Plan

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2022 4:24 pm
by philipy
As amazing as always from your erecting shop. Brilliant, and although I kind of see where you get the 'Hornby-esque' thing from, I think you do yourself down more than somewhat.

Re: Semi-scale BR: The Modernisation Plan

Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2022 9:43 am
by BertieB
Thanks again for the nice comments.

You probably all know this — but I’ve recently read that way back when Hornby introduced ‘Dublo’ at a nominal 1:76 (rather than adopting the international HO standard 1:87) it wasn’t because the tight British loading gauge made UK models appear puny in comparison (though it did) but to make it easier to accommodate the workings (which presumably would have been clockwork). The result is a scale gauge of 4’1” (-ish).

I feel completely vindicated — my G-scale, pretend gauge of 3’11” (-ish) isn’t that silly at all!

Re: Semi-scale BR: The Modernisation Plan

Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2022 10:52 am
by philipy
I must admit that until I read your post and that prompted me to investigate, I had always believed that Hornby Dublo was always electric only from its inception just before WW2, and that as you say, the 00 rather than HO was simply because of the size of available electric motors at that time. However, I've just found this video, which rather proves the point!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCBQ9gC82oU

Re: Semi-scale BR: The Modernisation Plan

Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2022 11:09 am
by Lonsdaler
Bertie those coaches look wonderful. I realise you know all the imperfections, but we don't - they really look the part :thumbup:

Re: Semi-scale BR: The Modernisation Plan

Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2022 11:44 am
by ge_rik
philipy wrote: Fri Mar 18, 2022 10:52 am I must admit that until I read your post and that prompted me to investigate, I had always believed that Hornby Dublo was always electric only from its inception just before WW2, and that as you say, the 00 rather than HO was simply because of the size of available electric motors at that time. However, I've just found this video, which rather proves the point!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCBQ9gC82oU
Fascinating! I like the way he knows how many turns of the key it takes for the first loco to go round twice and stop back at the station.

Rik

Re: Semi-scale BR: The Modernisation Plan

Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2022 6:11 pm
by BertieB
philipy wrote: Fri Mar 18, 2022 10:52 am “…I’ve just found this video…”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCBQ9gC82oU
Lovely. I’ve not seen those before. The 30s ‘concrete’ cream and orange railway buildings look great too.
ge_rik wrote: Fri Mar 18, 2022 11:44 am “…I like the way he knows how many turns of the key it takes for the first loco to go round twice and stop back at the station”
That was really neat.

I was given the tinplate O gauge, clockwork ‘LNER’ 0-4-0T goods set for Christmas sometime in the mid 50s — I still have it. Fully wound, it would hurtle round at several hundred miles per hour, threatening to come off at any moment — and frequently doing so. I’ve occasionally pondered recreating it, somewhat larger (and slower).

Going back to the coaches (and thanks, Phil), it does seem astonishing today, I think, to also read that the Southern Region designed and built (or converted) their last generation of steam ‘push-pull’ sets after the introduction of the Thumpers.

The line I travelled to school on went from ancient tank engines and push-pull sets, to modern tank engines that had to run round their trains at each end, to Thumpers, to being closed, all in around eight years. A couple of years later I’d bought a 2CV! (I’m not sure but I think that’s relevant).

Re: Semi-scale BR: The Modernisation Plan

Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2022 7:46 pm
by invicta280
You have the knack of capturing the spirit of the real thing and converting it to your own scale/gauge combo. Once again... superb!

Re: Semi-scale BR: The Modernisation Plan

Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 9:23 pm
by BertieB
Thank you. It’s been a nice sunny day and to delay having to start on the garden there were some ‘combinations of coaches’ pix to do:

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Branch line favourite (coaches 1 & 2)

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Push-pull with Bulleid Q1T (3 & 2)

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Three coaches and Bulleid 0-4-4-0 (1, 2 & 3)

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Three car proto-Thumper (I removed the wrong coach! Should be 4, 1 & 3)


(All still missing seats, etc)

I have materials and components for another coach: Buffet? DEMU driving trailer? another power car? a single coach (longer) railcar? Sleeper?! — dunno. Not quite yet though.